Yesterday I was very excited to see that the comedian Patton Oswalt had announced his engagement to Meredith Salenger. Now, anyone who knows me knows that I don’t follow the lives of celebrities at all. I’ve made an exception for him. Our spouses both unexpectedly died within 3 days of each other and both of us have processed our grief journey fairly openly. (Of course, his platform is a mite bigger than mine lol)
On the 102nd day of his journey (105 for me) he wrote in a Facebook post,
“I was face-down and frozen for weeks. It’s 102 days later and I can confidently say I have reached a point where I’m crawling. Which, objectively, is an improvement. Maybe 102 days later I’ll be walking.”
I shared that post on my own page because I could connect to that place he was in. No longer frozen, but the crawling was so painful.
Well, it’s been 442 days for him now and it makes my heart happy to see that his heart has continued to move forward, that it has healed and expanded to the place where he can now love another. My happiness for him quickly shifted to indignant anger on his behalf as I began to read the comments under the article
Comment after comment poured out judgment and disdain. It made me sick. I had to stop reading before I gave in to the temptation to rain fire in response to every comment. Instead, I decided to address them here all at once.
So, my dear ignorant, judgmental, assholes, this one is for you.
You aren’t entitled to an opinion. You don’t get to comment on the choices of a widower while you sit happily next to your own living spouse. You didn’t have to stand and watch your mundane morning turn into your absolute worst nightmare. You didn’t have to face the agony of despair and the only person who could possibly bring you comfort had been ripped from your life forever. You didn’t have to stand in the ashes of what was once your life when the sun itself darkened and the very air you breathed felt toxic in your lungs. Go back to scrolling Facebook and keep your ignorance to yourself.
Who gave you the position to judge when it’s “too soon” for a person who has suffered the worst to be able to find happiness and companionship again? It’s been 15 months! How long should a widow sit in isolation before YOU are comfortable enough to release them from their solitary confinement? Because it’s really about you isn’t it? You aren’t actually concerned about the heart of the person who has found the strength and courage to love once more. You’re worried about your own offended sensibilities rooted in old Victorian traditions. Stop pretending you are actually concerned about their “healing.”
And it does take strength and courage. To imply that it is weakness that drives someone who has lost their spouse to choose to love again is asinine. Unlike most, those who have been widowed are hyper aware that everyone they see will someday die. We know intimately that the price of love is pain. So if you see a widow or widower overcome that knowledge and choose to open their heart to that pain once again, instead of judging, you should be celebrating their bravery and fortitude. That much courage deserves a freaking parade.
And another thing. The person who comes after cannot and will not replace the one we lost. To imply that is insulting to the widow, it’s insulting to the new love and it’s insulting to the love who was lost. Earlier I said that I was happy to see Patton Oswalt’s heart had expanded. I used that word intentionally. I say expanded because that’s what widowed hearts do. They expand. One love isn’t moved out to make room for someone new. An addition is built. Just like my love for my daughter was not diminished by the birth of my son, so too, the love widows can have for someone new does not diminish the love of the one lost. The expansion of the heart is part of the grieving process.
We’ve gone through hellfire and lived. We don’t need your negativity in our lives. So please, if what you have to say about a widow or widower finding love again isn’t supportive and encouraging then keep it to yourself. We aren’t interested in hearing it.
Ps. Mr.Oswalt, if this somehow gets to you, from one widow to another, I would like to say congratulations from the bottom of my heart. I am so incredibly happy for you and I hope I am just as lucky someday.
I’d like to take a moment to shout out two of my favorite widow/er writers and their own blogs tackling this subject: John Polo’s “Sit Down, And Shut Up.” and Kerry Phillips’ “Loving Two Men”
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Romans 14:4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.
I am just 4 months from losing my wife of 13 1/2 years. I haven’t been actively seeking any other relationships but I want to build friendships that can lead that way. I don’t know if I want to get married but it is no ones business but my own what I do going forward.
Thank you for the wonderful thoughts on this subject.
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This is beautiful writing and, more importantly, true.
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We lost my brother 11 years ago. At the time he passed, he fought an illness for 3 years. His high school sweetheart, together when he was healthy, together when he was sick- she was there every day. At the hospital, by his bed at home. Such a commitment at a young age. Near the end he said he wanted to marry her. When he passed we bought her that ring- I couldn’t imagine the pain she went through losing her love. Just under a year after, she was dating someone else (who actually looks quite like my brother!). I know people were hurt, but I was relieved. I love her and all she did for my brother in those last trying years. I will always wish her only the best and most wonderful things.
In the last decade we have attended their baby shower, their wedding, as they have for us. I watched her marry this man who was there when her heart was still tender and broken. It is bittersweet but I thank God that she found love and such an understanding person in her husband for them to continue to include us in their lives where they can.
I will always be grateful for Jeff being there for Teri. She was amazing to my brother and she deserves all the love in the world.
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Everyone recovers differently from grief. My husband died 15 years ago. I have not recovered. But that is me. I don’t go around in mourning but just the thought of “loving” again is something I just can’t get my heart around. Again, that is just me. I am happy for someone who can find that kind of love more than once in a lifetime. That is a blessing and I am happy for Mr. Oswalt. Is there a sufficient time of mourning before someone can move on? I have to confess if someone is dating within months of their spouse dying I might give pause. But is not my place to judge and no one else should either. I wish him much happiness.
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Loved your post – people are quick to judge. This is such a personal decision and the nasty comments are hurtful and so uncalled for.
Erica – your personal story is so touching and my heart goes out to you. I’ve been reading some of your blog entries – your blog is beautifully written and I’m sure will be of help to others who have lost their spouse.
Wilma
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well stated! they have a long road ahead and so do you. i was widowed and so is my my wife now. Blending families with kids is not the easiest thing to do but well worth it if done rights. there is happiness after losing a spouse and i wish you the best too!
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Thank you! I am a widow, approaching 3 years in September, and I struggle to articulate that I am dating someone, partially because of the judgements of others. I know that I should not care. I know that it is no one’s business but my own. My children struggle with our new friend, because they worry that he will replace their daddy. But, our hearts are expanding. Thank you for your eloquence and bravery in stating what we, as those who have lost our loves and expanded our hearts, feel.
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The thing that strikes me is this — those who have loved well and deeply are seemingly more able to find love again after such a great loss. I’ve seen it happen to several friends whose partners died in tragic, untimely ways and I was always so happy to see them able to be that brave again. I think it might be those of us who never had that incredible relationship that have a harder time. In any case, these are all such very personal individual things — I think we should all be a lot more careful about offering anything but congratulations!
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Simply amazing. Bravo!
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Amen!! My husband and I were both widows when we met. When we married it was 18 months after my late husband’s death, and 11 months after his late wife’s death. After almost 2 years of marriage we still feel ostracized by many family members, friends and community members. Luckily we have some awesome people who have stood by us through it all. We surround ourselves with those people, and do our best to ignore the others. Thanks for you kick-ass post!
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Thank you for this! I lost my wife in 2013 and this really nails it. My late wife and I loved Patton’s work, so much so that we gave our first born “Patton” as a middle name. I’ll never understand the people that think they can tell you it is too soon to find love again.
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Maybe everyone needs to take their fucking lives off Facebook and figure out how to be a fucking human. Who gives a shit? Assholes who need to shift their existence from a screen to reality.
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My wife of thirty years died this morning. I have only begun to start looking at maybe somehow working with pain and shock. But I will say I agree completely with this essay and am happy that Mr. Oswald may find some new happiness.
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Thank you for this. I have watched my widow and widower friends search for and sometimes find their footing……some sooner than others. I can’t imagine what you are going through every day. My thoughts are with you. Again, I appreciate your perspective. Best wishes to you.
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This makes my heart sing and my eyes cry happy tears. I was widowed at 27, I’m now 29 almost exactly 2 years since my husband passed and I still get widow shamed. You’ve my exact thoughts out there for other people to finally understand. I’ve recently started dating again, and my own mother in law routinely askes or makes statements about how much I love my husband or how much he loved me and how he thought the world of me. Everyday is a little guilt trip. Thank you, for writing something for people who have never lost a s/o so that they may read and realize that their words hurt.
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I was all set to be supportive until I saw 15 months. The thing is, 15 months is, imo, too soon to be engaged – period. I say this completely removed from the widow(er) aspect of it. Although they exist, I don’t personally know anyone with a stable marriage who got engaged before two years of dating. I know personally know people who have gotten engaged sooner than that – they are all (bitterly) divorced.
I’m sure there are exceptions to the rule, but 15, again, sounds too early to be healthy, period, and it sounds doubly unhealthy when it’s only been 15 months since the previous relationship ended (regardless of the reason).
I don’t condemn anyone, and I wish them the best of luck, but I can’t help but worry this will end poorly.
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Thank you for this writing. I lost my wife, partner, lover and best friend nine months ago. I was moved by the notion that those of us who are widowed are so keenly aware of the connection between great love and risking great pain. I agree with you whole heartedly. Thank you.
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My late wife (high school sweetheart) died of cancer at age 38, leaving me a 36yo single father of two. I was fortunate to have had a strong support system that never judged me when I started dating too early (for me), when I went through a hooking-up phase, and when I found the new love of my life, to whom I’ve been happily married these past 9 years. But because I was public in dealing with my grief journey (and maintained a blog on it for three years), I got the kind of anonymous internet hate that Patton got with his recent announcement.
Your post speaks to precisely that demographic who think that because they have a keyboard and the a virtual megaphone that somehow they have the right to judge another human – for anything. But here’s the thing, haters: 1) Grief isn’t a linear process; it’s cyclical and random and it never goes away 100%. 2) There is no wrong way to grieve, and as many right ways as there are bereaved people. 3) It’s nobody’s damn business but their own.
Congrats to Patton on his engagement, and thanks, Erica, for this post.
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thank you for saying this
I actually DID think it for one hot second that you know “too soon” and then I immediately yelled at myself (in my head I’m not that kind of crazy) until I had me down and wanting to cry a bit
like fucking fuck, you are allowed to recover and respond and grow and move on from YOUR tragedy however you fucking like, I have not felt that guilty in a long time
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Thank you for this. It’s so righteous and right the fuck ON. And thank you for the sharing of your pain for the healing of others, too. I lost my wife 2 years ago and have been doing the same thing for the same reason, but in song form. I’d love to share these songs for with you (or anyone reading this who’s also lost a partner) free of charge. HMU at waxmoonmail @ g mail
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Hello and thank you for this amazingly thought out and worded reply! I want to let you know that I feel for you and wish you lots of Love and Positive Energy always for being able to sit and write something like this after dealing with a loss like this. Although I am no widow, I have lost loved ones who were super close to me and I have been through the many stages of grief many times over. It is always a different cycle and the time frame although never ending, is always at it’s very own pace. Wave after wave hits us through our grief at random. This may be one of the finest blog entries I have yet had the pleasure of reading and although I just recently finally started my own blog, I can only hope to be able to word entries as perfectly as you did here. I hope this journey of yours goes as well as it can and I hope those terrible nights that come with it are not too unbearable and the sun does rise again sooner than later each time. I appreciate you and I cannot wait to read more of your work. I close this how I started it… Lots of Love and Positive Energy to you always. Peace!
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I was left a widow 9 years ago. “Left in the ashes of the life you once knew”, was a thought that constantly filled my mind. I had hundreds of people around me and supporting me, but at the end of the day they got to go back to their lives and their loves. It’s a club that I never wanted to join and never wish anyone to join with me. I am so very sorry for all of your losses. As someone who has found happiness again (going on 6 years now) I resonate with this article. Thank you, Erica, this articulates my feelings on the subject exactly.
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Thank you for your insight, and support of this man’s journey. You are SO RIGHT. I met a man about three years after my husband died from liver cancer. It took a lot to even get to the point where l could open my heart up to that. Then he was diagnosed with cancer (different type thank God) and l had to decide if my heart was big enough. We’ll celebrate our 7th anniversary next month. I’m grateful l’ve been given the opportunity to love again
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Tomorrow marks the one year anniversary of my husband’s death; he was 40 years old, and my best friend. What you’ve expressed here resonates deeply with me, particularly this section:
“You aren’t entitled to an opinion. You don’t get to comment on the choices of a widower while you sit happily next to your own living spouse. You didn’t have to stand and watch your mundane morning turn into your absolute worst nightmare. You didn’t have to face the agony of despair and the only person who could possibly bring you comfort had been ripped from your life forever. You didn’t have to stand in the ashes of what was once your life, when the sun itself darkened and the very air you breathed felt toxic in your lungs. Go back to scrolling Facebook and keep your ignorance to yourself.”
I’m still struck by people who feel they get to have a say in how one chooses to proceed after a death. A few of my relationships have had to be adjusted based off the words those people chose to share with me. I haven’t found love yet, and I find that a year later I still worry that people will judge me, but then I read your words and I feel both defiant and inspired. Thank you!
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You are a beautiful soul. When I say you, I mean everything inside, outside and around you.
Thank you for your writing 🙂
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My grandmother married her next door neighbor about a year after the death of her husband. Both she and Bill lost a spouse to cancer and the shared experience of going through something so horrible brought them closer together. They remained married, and were together almost as long as their first marriages. Life is so hard, and we’ve all been through tragedy. I don’t know why anyone would judge a widow or widower who has found happiness after going through something so horrific.
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I felt like this essay was written just for me today. I lost my husband to suicide in January 2016, and today would have been my 22nd anniversary. In the last six months, I have made great strides: taking a job after 6 years out of the workforce, relocating to a city I love, and dipping my toe in the dating world. I wasn’t tuned into this anniversary until it was pointed out by my sister in law; I was busy making preparations for a visit from a man I met online and have been talking to daily for the last two months. Her intentions were entirely well meant, but I feel that she would judge me just as those commenters did. Walk a mile in my shoes.
Thank you for sharing your essay, and I wish you all the best in your journey.
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I used to feel similarly to the above comments. I just couldn’t grasp overcoming that kind of grief. As I got older, I realized it is completely normal. And as my widowed uncle married another widow, I learned that grieving together actually helps heal those deep wounds.
My best to Mr Oswalt! May he be blessed with this new and different love.
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I was widowed 3 years when I remarried. My daughter was the worse one out of everyone, and the rest weren’t that great. I struggled with all the emotions, guilt, sadness, happiness, and I still do. I love my husband and he has shown me it’s possible to trust love again. It’s all we have right now and right now is all we have.
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My life changed forever on March 14, 2016. I was married for 8 years. We had a 6 year old son together, and my husband was the best stepfather in the world to my 18 year old daughter. All I can say in response to this is that I lov you. This is beautiful.
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Amen. Only members of our privileged club could understand and appreciate how big and brave this step is. My husband died when we were 32, after a 4 year battle with leukemia. His doctor said the most profound words to me once, that have resonated for years–“Love is infinite.”
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Really well said, and I’m sorry for your loss and wish you the best on your healing journey. Also, congrats on Patton sharing your post, that’s how I found you!
Jamie Lyn Weigt | Writing Dragons Blog
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Thank you Erica for a phenomenal response which anyone who has been widowed can relate to. I truly love your ability to communicate with words, God bless you and I am truly sorry that you can identify so well.
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Thank you.
I’m not a widow. I am fortunate not to understand the agony of losing my husband. When I read the headline that Mr. Oswalt, who has been so open about sharing his grief, had become engaged, I thought, Oh how wonderful! And, I so hope that they are happy and his daughter is as well.
Love is always good news. Love is love is love. And it sees no time table and keeps no schedule.
I hate to see so much negativity being rained down on someone who has found some happiness in the dumpster fire, okay? There’s my .02.
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My grandfather remarried 6 months after my grandmother died tragically in a car accident. Years later I asked my.mother if it ever bothered her and I thought her answer was very wise. She said something along the lines of: Your granddaddy loved your grandmother very much and was very, very happily married to her. He was devastated when she died, but it was that love and happiness that allowed him to find love again. He had had it and knew what it was and how special and amazing it is and was smart enough to grab onto it when he found it again. How could I resent that?
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My husband died suddenly in 2009. It was hell. You know. One the second anniversary of his passing, I started talking to a man I’d known since preschool. We started dating a few months later, and married six months after that. I know that there were people who thought we moved too quickly, both for my grief journey – I was still struggling – and for the brevity of this new relationship, but thankfully, most kept it to themselves.
And now, I’m grateful beyond measure that we “moved so quickly,” as I laid my beloved to rest at the end of 2015. I’m 42, and twice widowed.
And God willing, I’ll find love again. I’m learning to be happy in my own skin – again – but building a life with someone, giving and sharing love, creating something beautiful, risking everything for someone – it’s all worth it.
It terrifies me to think of losing again. I barely survived the first time, and the second was “easier” in some small ways because I’d walked that path before, and all the more devastating because I’d been ripped asunder yet again, and really thought I’d found my forever. But without risk, without hope, without faith, without LOVE: what purpose do we have in life?
And NO ONE knows the state of Mr Oswalt’s heart. NO ONE. He’s still grieving his first wife. He ALWAYS WILL. The grief changes. It softens. It becomes easier to carry, or maybe we just learn to carry the burden, I don’t know. But he’ll carry that for all of his days. But despite that, he found love again. And I’m GLAD. He’s entrusted his heart to another, and that is glorious.
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Lost my son to suicide when he was 25. My daughter in law who is now my daughter because I refuse to lose this wonderful woman found a new man 18 months later. It took her nearly 3 months before that to admit she was dating. We love him. He helped her grieve openly and never begrudged her memories. He is now our son in law in our eyes. He loves our girl and is good to her. Love isn’t on a time line. When paths cross and the connection meet it happens. Better to be open to love than live in pain.
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I had tears reading this, not just for Patton, but for you. The strength you both have, to just MOVE, to simply BE, is astounding to me.
I’m blessed to have my soulmate with me, but I’ve known several widow(er)s and can tell you your piece speaks to them, and for them. Thank you for sharing this and for sharing your story.
There’s a part of me envious of anyone for whom you expand your heart. If what (and how) you’ve written is any indication of You, you are an amazing person well worth knowing.
F@ck the haters. Live your life. Love your kids. Love your life. Keep expanding your love.
Thank you.
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I was also widowed on April 18,2016. My husband was 27 and cancer showed up out of nowhere. I felt the same emotions you did when I read some of the posts over he engagement…but I just show off my phone and raged internally. If you’re not a widow you can’t understand…and even if you ARE a widow, everyone has a different path and a different story. I was so incredibly happy to hear of there engagement and I’m always so inspired and happy for anyone who is been widowed when they find happiness in their lives in ANY way.
So…thank you for saying exactly what was in my head too!
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Thank you for your lovely and heartfelt words. I’m deeply sorry for your loss. Meredith is a very close friend of mine and Patton and Alice could not be loved by a kinder, sweeter person on this earth.
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Fierce. Beautiful. Thank you.
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Bless you for this. Social media and the comments section are usually the hair trap of the Internet Bathtub, but your humanity and vulnerability make this a gem. Seriously, who gives a fuck what people who gossip about the Kardashians think? What kind of miserable lives do they have that they have to judge someone who may have miraculously found some love and healing after a season in Hell?
I’m sharing widely.
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Very elequaintly stated. I’ve followed Oswald’s career and you are so intelligent, you will be a loving asset. Hang in there. There are a lot of trolls out here. A lot of empty/shallow hearts. Bless you both!
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Widowed almost exactly one month before you, Erica, and I cannot agree more. Thank you for writing this! I am not remarried, but I am dating. That does not mean I am “over” my husband or have “moved on”, it simply means that I am trying to live and enjoy life again! It is so difficult to do that, especially with others telling you constantly what you should be doing to enjoy life again.
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Reblogged this on Reading, Drinking and Dancing with a Chaser of Snark and commented:
Erica, FTW! When did it become ok for strangers feel entitled to “comment” on other people’s grief, disease process or loss.
Maybe I’m just old school, but saying something negative, to someone who has experienced life-altering circumstances, and the resulting pain, is personally distasteful to me. I remember learning to offer condolences, a hug, dinner, a drink or my telephone number. And keep my opinions to myself.
Grief and the pain of loss is PERSONAL. As is the process of moving through the pain, to discover who you are. Sometimes, just showing up for your own life is the most courageous and badass thing you can do.
I may be opinionated and outspoken, but even I know that silence is better than hateful bullshit.
So, be nice or be quiet. Seriously, it’s NOT about you.
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So beautifully said. Ashamedly, I must admit, when someone I know became a widow and started seeing someone after six months I, for just a moment, thought it felt too soon. Then, in the next moment, I realized whether he waited six months, 60 months or six years, his bride was never coming back and I moved past it and was so happy for him. They fell in love and have now been married for 10 years and I learned to celebrate love and hope for that for everyone, whenever it presents itself. ❤️ All the best to you.
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Thank you for this. My cousin’s husband passed suddenly in September, and she had recently started a relationship with a long-time friend. Of course there are people who are judging her hard, but I’m happy that she’s moving on. She’s only 28, and doesn’t deserve to be in mourning for the rest of her life.
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My dad was married for 22 years, when his wife passed away suddenly of a brain aneurism.
3 weeks later he was set up on a blind date with my mom. He knew her from work, but they weren’t friends prior. He proposed on their second date (she waited to say yes). They were married a few months later.
My parents just celebrated their 37th wedding anniversary!
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You assume that none of the commenters (maybe not that are mentioned in the article but there were more) have never went through this. I did and I got back too quickly and and ended up ending hurting people and I still regret that. I was not ready and I was younger and stupid. And hurt a lot and for years. All I’m trying to say, you judge the people the same way the judged Mr. Oswald. Yes, everybody is different but often people want to help and chime in when they went through a similar thing. It’s not that simple
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Dear Erica,
My sister sent this blog to me this morning, Boy am I sure glad she did!!! I’m a widow of 9 years this October. .Yep,you read that right 9 years. There is no time frame in how long we grieve or move on..WE all have a path we must take,some of us are ready before others. Just because some move on “Early” as some of these people have said,so what..Maybe his wife told him if anything happened “move on “speech..I don’t know,but I’ll be Damned that someone who doesn’t know me or my children and our story to dictate when “they think it’s right for me to move on”. FUCK THEM and their opinions..I chose to blame God and myself ,cause why would an all loving God do this to my Children,let alone me,what did I ever that was so wrong? I was so mad at God right after it happened..But then again,we learn it’s all part of grieving. Instead I focused on raising my boys,because that time goes by really fast. My boys are now 22,18, and 14 and I’m 43 still got alot of love to give someone. I’ve just gotten to the point that I feel it’s time. Finally,remembering to love myself again. I was so happy to read the blog ,as I was extremely happy that Patton was able to move on and find his happiness for not only himself, his daughter ,fiancee’ and his late wife. PATTON-reminded me there’s still hope for me……Everyone’s deserves loves,no matter anyone’s opinion!!! You reminded me of that” Thank you Erica from the bottom of my heart”.
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